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beertell

Posted Apr 21, 2020 in: We’re Back
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  • beertell
  • Posted: Apr 21, 2020
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Posted by jzamoras:
Posted by dobul:
I've been a subscriber since 2009, my current subscription expires in 55 days. I'm not likely to renew, at least for a paid version. Haven't seen any improvement in the product to justify my investment.


the irony, I have a toodledo task "look for another task manager" 90 days before my sub expires.


Hey for you guys leaving, be sure to also remove your credit card and not just cancel your subscription. I cancelled mine months ago because I switched Task Managers. Luckily my old card was stolen and I never updated in in my subscription settings. They still tried to charge me this month. They tried every day for a couple of weeks and blasted me with emails everyday. Even though I answered the request for comment, they continued to try and charge me. I think the only thing they are good at is money grubbing.

I have kept my account on the free subscription and still lurk on the forums occasionally hoping they will fix/update Toodledo. $my.hopes = $null :(
beertell

Posted Feb 11, 2020 in: Pros/Cons of Alternatives to Toodledo.
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  • beertell
  • Posted: Feb 11, 2020
  • Score: 1
@aleding, You are most welcome. I have had a free account with RTM for a few years and found it met most of my needs. I ended up liking the interface for Todoist more which is why I was leaning more toward it. RTM is a solid choice though.

@byerun, I used to utilize start dates, but it is something I gave up when I decided to trim the old workflow down a bit. I decided for me, I really only care when the task needs to be done by. I don't need to track my time for work so I don't need to know when it started. I also miss the old grid view. I have replaced that functionality with lots of custom filters which does the trick. Its not the same, but it works. At least TD and AM have unlimited filters.

I wish I would have known about the free year on AM! That may have swayed me. I am pretty committed to Todoist though and quite happy with it. Although I will be watching AM developments closely.

I may stop by in a few weeks, but please don't take it personal if I don't answer anyone back right away. I got tasks to do! :)
beertell

Posted Feb 09, 2020 in: Pros/Cons of Alternatives to Toodledo.
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  • beertell
  • Posted: Feb 09, 2020
  • Score: 4
Hey folks,


So as promised I will regale my adventure in finding a replacement for Toodledo. If you will recall I had narrowed my search to Amazing Marvin and Todoist (hereafter referred to as AM and TD for brevity's sake). I have been using both under free trials.

I used to think that nothing could replace Toodledo. Now I think I was just being stubborn. I did use it for over 10 years, and it grew on me. I realize with a little tweaking to my extremely dated workflow, that I am way more efficient with how I handle things. Plus, my workflow can fit into most of the popular TMs. Is there an exact replacement for Toodledo? Simply put, no. In many ways the the competition is better and improving. Development has become stagnant on this side of the fence. Toodledo has been slowly losing ground over the years. With all of that being said, be prepared because you will have to adjust your workflow to use other TMs. As painful as it has been for me, I am now better off.

So I ended up choosing TD, but it was no easy decision. I changed my mind several times during the course of my trials. TD won for the following reasons.

• It is a little more stable. Syncing between platforms is flawless and happens quickly. I can create a task on the web console and by the time I look down at my phone it is already there and vice versa. I noticed a few minor sync issues with AM. Nothing show stopping, just annoying.
• The mobile app is very slick and easy to work with. I had no idea how nice it could be. I can enter tasks directly into the app or through Siri with ease. Mobile access is very important to me. AM's app is not quite there yet. I don't doubt the coming update will be a vast improvement, but TDs mobile app was a big selling point for me because mobility is extremely important for my work.
• Tasks can be entered with natural language to schedule, add to project, and so on. Categorizing and tagging items can be done with simple syntax. i.e. "Do some work for boss every mon !!1 #work @VIP" will add the named task to reoccur every Monday with high priority in my work project and label it VIP. Once you get used to the syntax it is a snap to add tons of tasks in a short amount of time. Syntax is the same for the web app, mobile app and email entry.
• 4 levels of subtasks.
• Advanced filter every bit as good as TD. You can mark some filters as favorites which puts them right under you Today view.
• Shift or Ctrl click to select multiple tasks to batch edit. I don't have to click a switch then click option then save. Just select tasks, click option(s) to change and done.
• TD automatically backs up on a regular bases. It gives you a list of links so you can download from a certain date. Not sure how far the list goes back yet, but I periodically download the and archive the backups.
• TD has a better price.
• TD has a large list of integrations.

Both apps are amazing. I recommend doing a trial of each to see for yourself. No payment information was even required for either trial so there should be no worries of forgetting and being charged. I will be keeping my eye on development of AM and may switch some day in the future if it suits me.

Some notable things about AM that really stood out for me.
• AM has a lot of really cool features called strategies that TD does not have. They can be turned on and off to create a completely custom experience. Many strategies have instructional videos built right into the menu.
• The calendar integration in AM is something I have sorely wanted in TD. I believe it is only Gmail and iCloud at this point, but Outlook is also coming soon. You can view all your events and tasks on month, week and day calendars next to your events, meetings and etc. Calendar integration is on the road map for TD.
• Developers that really care about their product. I am impressed by the level of involvement and updates that AM receives. They have an active change log with many good things coming in the future.

I could have wrote an entire reference manual about this. Believe me, I narrowed it down a lot. I think it is enough for you to get a taste of what may be possible whether you are fed up and ready to migrate TMs now or just waiting for the inevitable collapse before you decide to make the move.

Either way good luck!

TLDR; I chose Todoist


This message was edited Feb 09, 2020.
beertell

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  • beertell
  • Posted: Jan 30, 2020
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Click you main menu and select Import/Export/Backup. There are several compatible formats including CSV, which I have found to be compatible with other TMs. I would make a backup of each type to be safe. and backup often...
beertell

Posted Jan 30, 2020 in: Pros/Cons of Alternatives to Toodledo.
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  • Posted: Jan 30, 2020
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Posted by Bevier:
No one is talking about MyLifeOrganized? It seems that it can do everything Toodledo can do and more with no compromises.


That is not one of the TMs that I initially looked at. I did some looking and unfortunately it would not fit my initial metrics. A cursory look into the domain shows that it is registered through an intermediary. I cannot find anything about where their servers are hosted either. Again this is merely looking on the surface. I require that the company is based in the US or an Ally. This is not because of a nationalist agenda, but rather, if I know the company is based somewhere where the laws are somewhat protective of my data I feel better. Additionally, the price point is a little high. If you want Pro level subscription, then it would be over 100 for a windows app, ios app, and cloud sync. I don't see a web app so I would not be able to use it on my Mac or Linux. The interface looks nice. Perhaps it would fit others needs though. Thank you for the suggestion.
beertell

Posted Jan 30, 2020 in: Pros/Cons of Alternatives to Toodledo.
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  • beertell
  • Posted: Jan 30, 2020
  • Score: 1
@Ummagumma and @Purveyor

Your posts got me thinking so I did some more research. I would like to retract my statement that RTM is not truly GTD. It is not right out of the box, but as it turns out there are some nice tutorials that you can make it quite nicely compliant with GTD. I must also admit that my interpenetration of GTD is not a purist one in any sense, but what I have learned from it and a few other organizational methods. My true workflow is more of a hybrid of GTD and these other methods. I should really stop using the term GTD all together. Specifically, I use the concepts of gathering sources, reviews, and distraction control as well as some of the terms. I have noticed that although the terms change from TM to TM, the concepts are much the same. In other words, labels can be contexts, projects can be folders, etc. RTM was one of the first products out of the five that I looked at and so my concepts were not as fluid as they are now. Thank you for helping me come to these conclusions. Sorry, I am all out of flack. I used it up years ago. :)
beertell

Posted Jan 29, 2020 in: Pros/Cons of Alternatives to Toodledo.
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  • beertell
  • Posted: Jan 29, 2020
  • Score: 3
Hey folks,
Long time Toodledo user (over 10 years) here. Never really participated in the community much. Toodledo has done what I needed, and I was happy. I am sad to see that a thread about alternative apps is one of the most active on here. Looking at the way the new owners are handling things I am not surprised. We still have no workable mobile solution (imo), most everything is on hold and very few updates?!?! I only see excuses about old code, and they up the price for what? Why not hire some more people with that extra money and get it done? They have until April when my billing is up and then I will be jumping ship.

Toodledo runs my life and I am scared to death to lose it, but I refuse to be caught with my pants down as a result of anyone else’s tomfoolery. I have started to look for an alternative. I thought I would share my journey with you all as I hope it may help someone. Please understand the following is based on my opinions and observations. I am human and have errored in the past and will continue to do so as long as I am breathing. Please take the following with a grain of salt and do your own research!
Just so you know where my reviews are coming from… I am a Tier2 Support Specialist for my company with a busy personal life. I work in an office half the time. The other half I am a mobile worker. Mobility, customization and integration are important for my TM (Task Manager). I use Windows and IOS for work and Mac, Linux and IOS for personal time. I need a TM that works in all my platforms as well as a solid web interface.

There have been a lot of improvements in the competition since I last looked. I looked through a few review sites and picked around 15 candidates based on reviews. I then narrowed it down to five based on the following:

*US or Ally based company
*Must have web or desktop and mobile apps
*Must be able to sync across platforms
*Current Development
*Stability

I then narrowed it down further to five candidates, came up with a list of the most important features and researched each one. I captured a matrix to a png file and posted it on imgur so you can see the results of my research so far. The candidates are:

*Todoist
*Remember the Milk
*Amazing Marvin
*Any.do
*OmniFocus

Here is a link.

https://i.imgur.com/0ftx4K8.png

I am now working on trials for the top two pics shown in green at the top of the matrix.

The reasons I did not pick the other three:

RTM – not GTD in my opinion. There are work-arounds, but it is not workable for me.
Any.do – glorified grocery list. No advanced searches or bulk editing. Lame!
Omni – recently developed web interface is not fully functional and very lacking. They are too far entrenched into the Apple ecosystem for me.

The reasons I picked Amazing Marvin: It is configurable like crazy and the devs are updating like mad. It is better than Toodledo in many ways including a usable if not a little clunky moble app (mobile apps are getting an update within 3 months). It has features like task dependencies, slick calendar integration (with sync to icloud, gmail, and soon Outlook), time blocking, etc. etc. etc… In a year it will do twice that Toodledo can do. The devs actually communicate and have many projects in the running. What worries me is that it is relatively new compared to the others, mobile needs work, price is high, and the interfaces are not there yet, although most are coming soon. It is a bit of a gamble.

The reasons I picked todoist: One of the most established of the others. Large user base and a very solid product. They have almost everything I want. The mobile app is a thing of beauty. If you have seen it before, they just got a big update. It checks off almost every want that I have. Large active community. Best price. Good development. This is a solid choice, but not as many bells and whistles.

There is no direct replacement for Toodledo. I will likely have to make some major adjustments, but the added features will likely cancel out the pain in the long term. I will report back once I have made a choice with a summary. Good luck, and no matter what you think, back up your DB at the very least. I have a feeling bad news will be forthcoming. I hope they prove me wrong.