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Peter Scott

Posted May 20, 2022 in: Revamped web app?
Score: 7
Please be careful. "Modern" web appearance emphasizes big fonts and lots of whitespace. This would destroy the principal advantage of the task UI, the fitting of dozens of rows with a dozen attributes each on a single screen. I depend on that detail to handle the complexity of many interrelated tasks matching a search. If I wanted Remember The Milk I know where to find it.
Peter Scott

Posted Apr 28, 2022 in: iOS beta does not load tags
Score: 1
I can’t; roadmap.toodledo.com doesn’t work on my iPad. When I click on either of the login links it says Redirecting and just goes back to the same page.
Peter Scott

Posted Apr 23, 2022 in: iOS beta does not load tags
Score: 0
Just tried the new iOS beta on iPad and it did not display any of my tags in the tag lists, either the tag menu or the list for setting tags. Yet displaying a task with tags shows them set.
Peter Scott

Posted Jan 02, 2022 in: Batch edit select all
Score: 0
Thank you - I found the interface now. It gets hidden when the batch change menu pops up, so if you want to edit all of them you have to decide that before you do the L-click. This is very helpful.
Peter Scott

Posted Dec 28, 2021 in: Batch edit select all
Score: 0
I am not seeing sorting options or a small arrow next to anything. It looks like this:

This message was edited Dec 28, 2021.
Peter Scott

Posted Dec 20, 2021 in: AMA / Ask me Anything
Score: 0
I have posted these comments before in multiple fora. Our business has been a paying customer since 2005 and depend upon Toodledo for task management. The other functions (Habits, etc) are of no use or interest to us. Toodledo surpasses all other programs for task handling because of its ability to display many tasks in much denser views than any of the competition and for manipulating many tasks at once through featureful searches and the bulk edit feature. (An on-screen trigger for bulk edit would be handy; I always have to look up how to activate it.)

I would like - as I have been saying since 2009 - nested subtasks; even one extra layer would be very useful. I have posted ideas for how this could be done.

The current rules for repeating tasks with a parent are a bit mysterious, but so far they seem to do the right thing, although I'm being super conservative in my usage.

The only other thing I would like to see is the ability to print reports; I'd like to render the results of a search into a PDF with tasks in rows. Wouldn't have to have customizable layout but that would be nice.
Peter Scott

Posted Dec 10, 2021 in: Batch edit select all
Score: 0
If I want to batch edit every task on the page, how do I do that? So far I seem to have to hold down L while clicking on each task one at a time.
Peter Scott

Posted Oct 08, 2021 in: A Message From Jake
Score: 5
As a user since before 2009, I've stuck with Toodledo because nothing else offers as dense and complete an interface to task management. I need to deal with searches that return hundreds of tasks, be able to navigate around them to do operations in bulk speedily with the keyboard shortcuts, and see dozens of them on the screen at a time with all their attributes in customizable columns to be able to manage complex lists of subtasks. Every other tool I've looked at that had the right task attributes had caught the "user friendly" bug and showed only a few tasks at a time, with few attributes and nothing like the flexibility. But hey, they had bouncy bubble gum UIs.

Thanks for keeping Toodledo the best way for people like me to get serious work done. Of course there are improvements I want, but they're not about putting some chic facade on it for people whose todo lists would fit on a whiteboard.
Peter Scott

Score: 0
I have several saved searches, they all display their results with tasks rolled up into one line. For one of these searches only, I want it to always return them expanded to show all attributes. Is that something I can set for that search? I think it is possible because somehow whenever I click on a listing by context all those are automatically unrolled, which is what I want for context lists. Thanks.
Peter Scott

Posted Feb 25, 2019 in: Feature requests closed?
Score: 0
Are the feature requests closed? It tells me that I need to log in to make a request or comment. I'm already logged in, but I click the green login button anyway and it says "Redirecting to Toodledo Roadmap" and then comes back to exactly the same (not logged-in) screen. Safari, OS X.
Peter Scott

Posted Nov 17, 2018 in: Feature Roadmap and New Pricing Plans
Score: 0
Posted by joelhfx:

For those of you looking for alternatives. Try this slack channel. productivity-tools.slack.com
It was formed by the x-users of IQtell upon its demise and was an amazing help for me.


Slack channels appear to be invitation-only and don't publicize a link to request an invitation. Do you know a way to get invited to this channel?
Peter Scott

Posted Oct 29, 2018 in: Pros/Cons of Alternatives to Toodledo.
Score: 0
I am a heavy GTD user and there are attributes in Toodledo I don't find in RTM. Context and Goal as you say, but also Folder, since both systems have tags. I use Folder for task size, ranging from Next Action through Project and higher. I use Context for review schedule, ranging from Weekly through Yearly. My GTD workflow is a series of 9 custom searches to go through and the periodic review is clicking on the appropriate Context. I also use Goal and Location. I get that tags could be used for what I'm doing with Folder and Context, but it shifts some discipline onto the user that is critical, especially when collaborating with people not as power user as myself.

I also appreciate how dense the display on Toodledo is. With > 2000 active tasks I am often scrolling through long lists to perform a review, when I need to get a big picture and drag tasks to subtasks, and many systems take up so much space that you could only see a handful on the screen at a time.
Peter Scott

Posted Oct 27, 2018 in: Outdent subtask?
Score: 0
I've been trying for several minutes to promote a subtask to a standalone task in the new web interface, and I've apparently done one by accident but I can't reproduce it. All my dragging of the cruciform icon results in it staying in this parent or becoming a subtask of an adjacent task. What's the trick?
Peter Scott

Posted Jun 24, 2018 in: Subsubtasks
Score: 0
You still need a parent-child relationship so that when you mark the parent complete it completes any children.
Peter Scott

Posted Jun 23, 2018 in: Subsubtasks
Score: 0
For proper normalization, there would be an association table (task_id, subtask_id) with the pair of columns being the primary key. Query via join.
Peter Scott

Posted Jun 22, 2018 in: Subsubtasks
Score: 0
Since it has been 5 years since I last brought it up, and over 10 years since it was first requested, I want to see whether there are any people left here still wanting more than one level of subtask. This is not a request for advanced project management tools like resource leveling or dependency tracking, neither is it needed only for business-level planning. Because I do GTD, I break things down to this sort of granularity:

Visit relatives for Christmas
--------Get present for mother-in-law
----------------Shop for present
----------------Wrap present
--------Do Christmas cards
----------------Take photo for cards
------------------------Decide on location/theme for card
------------------------Schedule photo

Outlines are not the answer. They are a separate data repository with the semantics for arranging strings in a hierarchy and attaching a checked status to them. They're not tasks, they don't have attributes like start and due dates, they can't be filtered by status or tag, they can't be searched by folder or context, they can't be reassigned, they don't count towards the statistics, they can't have alarms attached, they can't have independent notes or files, and they do not convert to tasks when flattened. Outlines do not provide subsubtask functionality.

I understand that this feature, while it has been on the todo list for over a decade, looks hard because of user interface issues with multiple levels of indentation. I would be able to do >95% of my cases with only two more levels of subtasks, so capping it there would suit me fine and maybe that would be workable. But for an approach that would sidestep the indentation issue, I have come up with the following.

Pretend for a moment that the current subtask functionality doesn't exist. Here's the idea: Outfit every task with a field called Subtasks, which is a list of zero or more IDs of child tasks. When displaying this field in any view, it renders as a list of the subtask titles, one per line, each of which can be clicked/tapped to replace the current task view with the child task. Each task also has a field called parent task, which is populated with zero or one IDs, likewise clickable/tappable.

Interfaces may supply the means to populate those fields. When adding a subtask to a task, the server will throw an exception if any subtask of that subtask is the task it is being added to, or if the subtasks's parent task field is nonempty. When adding a parent to a task, the server will throw an exception if any parent of that parent is the task it is being added to. When a task is added to a subtask field, the server will populate the parent field of that task with the ID of the task it is being added to. When a task is added to a parent field, the ID of the task is added to the subtask list of the task being added. Interfaces may implement the above functionality by drag and drop, each operation according to a different target. Interfaces should provide a means to reorder IDs in a subtask list.

Completing a task causes all the children (recursively) to be marked as completed.

Okay, so far not much different from today other than the arbitrary number of levels. Here's the consequences:

Subtasks are displayed only in the list field. Not indented underneath the parent. Dragging a task will therefore not have to drag children with it. The little "is a parent"/"is a child" icon goes away.

The "repeat with parent" choice for task reoccurrence should probably be removed. I have a suspicion that it already has problems and it would have more. I don't think it's easy enough to tell what it's behavior should be.

I don't think there is any other functionality that would have to be removed. Obviously it would be *theoretically* possible to display the trees and drag them around, but in practice there could be insurmountable headaches with deep trees. Instead, develop a tool designed just to show a task tree, somewhat like the outline view. Not that you have to.

I think this is workable. I don't know whether you could do it without too many people howling about losing the indented display, or whether you could reasonably make the behavior user-selectable with the current behavior being the other option. I do think this is the way to go - get the model right first, make the interfaces whizzier later on instead of letting user interface limitations dictate the model.
Peter Scott

Score: 0
Jus filed ticket:

I have a saved search that displays ~80 results in the production site, but zero results in tasksbeta. That search:

Match all
Checked off = no
Status is Hold
Start date was in last 999 days
OR
Due date was in last 300 days
Peter Scott

Posted Oct 18, 2016 in: Reassign to free account?
Score: 0
Sorry, this is not clear to me in the documentation. I have a pro account. Can I reassign a task to someone who has a free account?

I thought we had done everything to enable this but they are not showing up on my reassign list yet.
Peter Scott

Posted Oct 15, 2016 in: Request: Display task creation time
Score: 0
I would like to request that it be added as a regular field.
Peter Scott

Posted Sep 28, 2016 in: Request: Display task creation time
Score: 0
That's interesting. This is the place I looked for that field: .
I don't see it. Where should I be looking?


This message was edited Sep 28, 2016.
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